RECAP AND REVIEW: Heaved Conversations with Booker T – if we’ll see Brock Lesnar vs. Daniel Cormier, why UFC needs Cormier, Enzo Amore’s rap career, the evolution of women’s wrestling

Heated Conversations with Booker T

Episode 184: Will We See Brock Lesnar vs. Daniel Cormier

Release Date: November 10, 2018

Recap By: James Hayes


Booker T and Co-Host Brad Gilmore welcome you to the show!

Booker said a lot of things are happening in the world right now. The guys jump right in.


The Democrats took back the House. Booker wonders if things will change now. Brad hopes so. Booker starts talking about Nancy Pelosi.

“Nancy Pelosi look like she got younger,” Booker says. Brad agrees that she looks good for 78. Booker says these people in Congress never want to die. “What’s in the water in Congress? Brad notes that Trump is also getting a lot older, yet he is still active. Booker hopes the Democrats bring change.

Speaking of change Booker mentions how despite all that Jeff Sessions did for Trump it wasn’t enough.“Donald Trump fired that boy! He did everything Trump told him to do. He wanted Sessions to do the right thing on Russia, but Jeff said, ‘My name is Emmit, and I ain’t in it.'”

Booker says Trump is drunk with power, “To say he’s going to make an executive decision and take people’s birthright away, that’s power drunk. That kind of power in one man’s hands can be very dangerous for America. GOOD GOD!”

Enzo the Rapper

Real1 is coming to perform in California. Booker then proceeds to do a rendition of 2Pac’s “California Love”. Brad joins in. (It’s… something to hear.)

Here is the correct version.

Booker than co-signs Enzo’s rap career again.

Brad says, “That’s your guy. You don’t co-sign a lot of people, but you co-signed Real1. That’s your guy.” Booker responds, “Give a man a chance. Help a man if you can! That’s what I’m about. Enzo Amore is doing BIG things.”

Brad says, “I knew you were going to bring this up. He will be over at The Whisky A Go Go. It’s on Sunset Strip, I believe.” Booker confirms, “Enzo will be performing 11/19. Doing his thing. Some songs of his album, some stand up comedy, a meet and greet.”

Brad no sells Booker’s plug. Silence.

“What is it about you? Why do you always gotta hate? The guys trying to make a new start,” Booker says. Brad responds, “I’m not hating on him. Congratulations. I gave him props.”

Booker is not convinced and says he’ll try to get the Rap God, better known as Real1, better known as Enzo Amore on the show next week, so Brad can talk his trash to Enzo’s face. “Like a man!” Booker demands.

Here is Real1’s Bury Me A G

(Brace yourself.)

The show takes a somber turn as Booker tells us about a young lady he recently bumped into at a local gas station.

Domestic abuse

Booker gets serious and says. “This is real talk because I want people to know how serious life truly is. I stopped at Shell gas station to get some gas and it said I had to see the attendant. I gave the guy $40.00, came back out and there was a girl sitting in a truck and she said, ‘Booker.’ It was like a ghost. I turn around and she says, ‘Booker, can you give me some advice.’ She didn’t want any money or anything just some advice. I said, ‘What can I do for you?’ She goes, ‘I’ve heard you help people and I want some advice. I just got out of the hospital, my boyfriend beat me up.’ She still had the hospital band on her arm and she had bruises all over her. She asked me what should she do because she did not know where to go. She said, ‘The only place I can go to is a women’s shelter because I’m afraid he’s going to kill me. I’m afraid he’s going to beat m up again if I go back.’ I said, ‘Well, did you call the police?’ She goes, ‘Well, I tried to get a restraining order… ‘ I go, ’No! Did you press charges on this man?’ She goes, ’No because he said he was going to kill me.”‘

Booker says ”There are so many women in that same situation, that’s going through that same thing. I urged her to go and talk to someone. To get the police involved and make a police report so this man can go to jail for putting his hands on her! She then talks to me about her two kids. She says, ‘I’m afraid my kids are going to be taking away from me. My two kids right now are staying with their Dad.’ I said, ‘Excuse me, Sweetheart the kids are probably in the best place they can be right now, with their Dad, that is something you have to see. You got to get yourself together before you can do anything for those two kids because you don’t want them around this type of man. You don’t want them to see that.’ And her eyes lit up. I said, ‘You need to move. You need to go somewhere right now!. And get this situation rectified.’ She got her shoulders straight and looked up and drove off. I don’t know where she went, but if she is listening right now, I hope she did the right thing.”

RAINN (Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network)

1-800-656-HOPE (4673)

Reality of Wrestling

Apparently, some youngin named Rex Andrews has been talking trash about Booker. He makes it clear that he will, “Put his a** on a one-way ticket back to Dothan, Alabama in a heartbeat if he doesn’t keep his mouth shut.”

Ladies Night Out 4

Booker says this event will be, “Totally off the chain.”

We got Su Young, Ivelisse, Taya Valkyrie, Thunder Rosa, Kiera Hogan, Alex Garcia, and Barbi Hayden.

“It’s crazy how the women’s’ wrestling… I don’t just credit Evolution, I credit all the women’s wrestlers around the world, all have a hand in evolution because they’re so many of them out there doing it to the perspective where WWE has got their hands full. I’m sure they are looking here and there and thinking, ‘Man, we got to open some room up. We may have to open up our own hotel!’ I just think it’s too many of them, it’s too many, and it’s going to continue. The world of professional wrestling is booming right now! You wanna be a part of Reality of Wrestling. Get your ticket!. It’s been crazy We got so many students.”

Brad says, “Get down to 10,000 Emmit F Lowery. This has been our best year. We are firing on all cylinders.”

Ladies Night 4 happens November 17th

LADIES NIGHT OUT 4 – November 17th

Before The Final Bell:

Daniel Cormier

“We had Derrick Lewis on the show last week,” Brad says. “He didn’t pull it off.” Booker replies.”He did not” Brad confirms.

Booker, “Derrick Lewis went out, H-Town’s own The Black Beast, one thing I can tell you he probably got that mortgage paid off. I’m sure he got a nice check. Derrick came on the show and said he’s not worried about championships, he’s here to pay off his mortgage. How much did he get paid?”

Brad says DC got $640,000

Derrick Lewis got $530,000

Booker says after taxes Lewis might have only got $200,000.

Booker said it’d go 2 rounds and 30 days was not enough time Derrick Lewis to get back in shape.

“The Beast did exactly what I thought he was going to do. He put his heart out there. But from a wrestling, POV Black Beast was just out of his element.” Booker says.

Brad does not feel this loss will really hurt Derrick. Booker agrees. (So do I.)

DC vs. The Black Beast

Before The Final Bell:

Daniel Cormier vs. Brock

Brad wonders, “Where does Daniel “DC” Cormier go from here? Now that you have beat Stipe, you beat Volkan Oezdemir, you beat Derrick Lewis all in one year. You’re rounding third you want to go home. March is probably gonna be it. Your rounding 40. He’s an older man, he’s a double champ. Jon Jones is probably gonna take that Light Heavyweight Championship in December.”

Booker answers, “I think the UFC needs Daniel Cormier to stick around. I don’t see him retiring. The UFC gonna tell Daniel, ‘Hey, we need you to stick around for at least another year. Or maybe two. If you could do that for us everything will work out for you if you don’t, hey you’re on your own.”‘

Booker says Brock signed an extension with WWE so the DC fight might be up in the air. Brad’s still not sure the fight won’t happen. Booker says, “The thing is there’s not a whole lot of rumblings from the UFC about it You don’t hear a lot of buzz, as we did a month or so ago.”

Brad now floats the idea that maybe DC can wrestle in WWE. Booker immediately vetoes this idea outright. He says DC is not attractive enough. He then adds that he likes DC. (Not really.)

Booker continues.

“The UFC really need DC. This is a time when DC can really maximize his full potential and make as much money as he possibly can by sticking around. Right now he is a rock star! He has the world in the palm of his hands.” (I guess he does like DC.)

Rating: 8.0 out of 10

Overall Observations:

Good show. I especially liked the commentary and advice on how women should deal with domestic violence. A podcast that cares.

No other wrestling show has the kind of variety this one does.

See ya next week!

About James:

Based out of New York, James Hayes is an independent filmmaker and podcaster, currently working on a true crime series focused on African American crime. When he needs a break from the seriousness of true crime he turns to pro wrestling. His favorites are Bret Hart, New Day, Samoa Joe, and Becky Lynch. James has 27 years of following the sport. Here is a link to his film credits, as well as his Twitter @JamesHa34395813.

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