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PWTorch Wednesday Livecast w/Pat McNeill interviewing Homicide & Billy Real (Apr. 27, 2016)

Wednesday PWTorch Livecast with Pat McNeill
Special Guest: Former ROH/TNA wrestler Homicide & Jersey All Pro wrestler Billy Reil
Aired Live: April 27, 2016

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Recap by Dominic DeAngelo

SUBJECTS COVERED

– Jersey All Pro Wrestling Reunion show
– JAPW past and alumni

TIME STAMPS OF COVERAGE

(2:25) Pat McNeill intro
(3:40) Billy Reil intro
(4:15) Homicide into
(4:45) JAPW Homecoming Show
### COMMERCIAL BREAK ###
(9:00) Charlie Haas discussion
(12:05) What’s Homicide’s wildest gang story?
(14:15) Does Homicide see Flex Armstrong in the big leagues soon?
(15:52) Did Manny Fernandez ever shoot on Homicide while training him?
(19:40) When’s the last time Homicide and Loki tagged together?
(21:05) Has Homicide expected bigger things from Danny DiMatto?
(23:10) What made Billy decide to come back to wrestling this Saturday?
### COMMERCIAL BREAK ###
(30:35) What was Pat’s problem with Batman vs. Superman?
(31:30) Who’s afraid of Homicide?
(38:25) Sinclair buying TNA?
(40:45) Anyone Billy will be missing at the JAPW show this Saturday?
(42:20) Are there guys who can’t make it because of other booking commitments?
(44:16) Any guys they’re happy that’s not going to be there?
(44:50) How did they keep JAPW shows running after “Fat” Frank passed away?
(47:30) Could either take C.M. Punk in a UFC match?
### COMMERCIAL BREAK ###
(54:25) First time Billy & Homicide were on a show together
(1:01:20) Follow on social media

SHOW HIGHLIGHTS

(4:45) Both Homicide and Billy will be wrestling for Jersey All Pro Wrestling this weekend. Billy brings up a time in 1998 where Billy’s partner, the late Trent Acid, got smashed with VCRs. Homicide remembers that, and says he would go all out – he wonders why he’d do something like that. Billy says what Homicide has done in this business is amazing

### COMMERCIAL BREAK ###

(9:00) Rhino will be facing Charlie Haas at the Jersey All Pro Show this Saturday. Billy makes note that Charlie got his start in JAPW. Back then, there were no politics and cliques. Billy says he was on the negative side of politics back then. Billy and Homicide both agree that Russ Haas was amazing. Homicide says just picture the Briscoe Brothers and Kurt Angle merged together.

(12:05) What’s Homicide’s wildest gang story? Homicide doesn’t snitch, and Ryan from Cumberland would have to come to Brooklyn to figure out. He’s the real thing. He came out of juvi and saw a flyer to become a pro wrestler. His first match was in JAPW on Sept. 12, 1997.

(14:15) Does Homicide see Flex Armstrong in the big leagues soon? He saw good things from Flex, but Homicide’s IQ is so good right now he’s on another level.

(15:52) Did Manny Fernandez ever shoot on Homicide while training him? Manny’s an outlaw – he’s a part of that West Texas group with Dusty and Tully. He’s doing great. Billy says Manny taught about wrist control, which is important in shoot and amateur wrestling. Homicide says at 62, Manny can still go. Manny is the hardest chopper ever in the business and relays a story about Manny and Wahoo McDaniel.

(19:40) When’s the last time Homicide and Low-Ki tagged together? Last time was when they were in the independents and wrestling internationally. It was probably around March 29 of last year in TNA when they were apart of The Beat Down Clan.

(21:05) Has Homicide expected bigger things from Danny DiMatto? Yeah, but as of now he’s doing really smart things that makes him wiser and smarter. The Joker too is someone to look out for (who was Homicide’s best man at his wedding). Billy reiterates Homicide’s point about Danny, saying he was just a kid when he first broke in and now expects bigger and better things from him. He’s looking forward to Saturday.

(23:10) What made Billy decide to come back to wrestling this Saturday? His health – he’s been blessed by angels to return during his battle with diabetes. A lot of fans prayed for him and now he’s got it under control. It wasn’t a plan to return to pro wrestling but JAPW reached out to him and he took the offer. He remembers training with Homicide before he knew he had diabetes and was feeling really fatigued. Homicide was making fun of him because he thought it was low cardio, but then he told Billy it can’t end like this and now he’s returning.

### COMMERCIAL BREAK ###

(30:35) What was Pat’s problem with Batman vs. Superman? Billy thinks that after the director’s cut comes out it might be different.

(31:30) Are there any wrestlers that refused to wrestle Homicide because they were scared of him? Homicide said there were cliques back in JAPW; guys from NYC, guys from Philly and guys from Jersey. He hated but respected the New Jersey clique. Billy said there was two people guys were afraid of and that was Low-Ki and Homicide. Homicide takes pro wrestling like it’s his life and he doesn’t mess around. Nowadays he’s a lot smarter, but he’s also like mobster. He loves the little things in life and he can’t wait for the JAPW show and that’s a shoot. Were people in TNA afraid of him? He said at first, yes, but he was tested by the Dudleys and he passed the initiation. He’s got a good reputation right now. Were people scared of Billy? People were apprehensive. He tells the story when he was getting bullied by the guys in the locker room at 18, he couldn’t take it anymore and put some people in his place. Assault charges got placed, but if you got to know him you’d know it was just a matter of defending himself.

(38:25) Rumors are swirling that Sinclair is a potential buyer of TNA. Homicide said that’s a big rumor. Pat asks how Homicide thinks those two would mesh? He thinks they’d mesh very good, as ROH promotes north and TNA promotes south. South still has that Mid-South style of wrestling, while ROH is more fast-paced. Homicide likes the story-telling aspect of wrestling so he’s more South-style, but he hopes the rumor is true because there needs to be another big promotion up against WWE.

(40:45) Anyone Billy will be missing at the JAPW show this Saturday? Two people are dear to his heart were Trent Acid and “Fat” Frank Iadevaia. Frank gave a lot of guys breaks when he didn’t have to. JAPW was the place where he got opportunity to wrestle and rise above the b.s. They won’t be there physically, but maybe spiritually.

(42:20) Are there guys who can’t make it because of other booking commitments? Pat throws out names like Jay Lethal, Steve Corino, Kevin Steen and Samoa Joe. Homicide brings up an individual by the name of Rain Child, who was the first student of JAPW Academy. Wreckless Youth, Mike Quackenbush are some of the other names mentioned.

(44:16) Any guys they’re happy that’s not going to be there? They both plead the fifth.

(44:50) How did they keep JAPW shows running after “Fat” Frank died? Homicide initially said after Frank died, he wasn’t going to wrestle another JAPW, but he feels Frank’s presence around. Billy says there are definitely higher powers at work to make something like this come together.

(47:30) Could either take C.M. Punk in a UFC match? Homicide fights dirty, so he says hell yeah, that’s a dumb question. Punk’s first JAPW match was against Billy, he had a decent match, but then Punk fractured his skull. Billy’s not a shooter, but he hopes that he flourishes. When Billy met Punk there was a 16-man tournament which included Daniel Bryan. Punk came up to ask Billy if he worked stiff, Billy said no, and Punk said “well I do” and he walked away. Not a good first impression, but he’s grown to respect him and anyone that’s a friend of Homicide is a friend of his.

### COMMERCIAL BREAK ###

(54:25) First time Billy & Homicide were on a show together was on Homicide’s debut, Sept 12, 1997. Billy fought Bobby G., and back then light-heavyweights weren’t that popular, but they had a good match. Homicide fought in an eight-man tag (his team won). Fun Fact: Billy’s only 35!

(1:01:20) Follow Billy @TheBillyReil on Twitter. Homicide only has Instagram.

SCORE & REVIEW

8.0: It’s the personalities that really carry this week’s episode. Much like last week, I knew very little about Jersey All Pro Wrestling, but Billy and Homicide both have the gift of gab, which makes them spectacular guests and helps the listener become genuinely interested in the promotion. They talk about names you’ve heard of (and probably names that you haven’t) but it all builds a framework for this past Saturday’s Homecoming show. Two highlights were Homicide talking about the potential Sinclair TNA buyout and Billy Reil’s C.M. Punk interaction and involvement in JAPW. Lot’s of familiar faces wrestled in this promotion so it’s cool to hear who’s been involved with JAPW.

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